Paying danegeld is never a good idea.
Jun. 1st, 2012 07:12 amThe UEFI Signed Boot system is a requirement from Microsoft that all PC hardware refuse to boot any operating system that isn't approved by them. To get approval, you pay the UEFI people money and submit your code. They sign off on it, and you get the magic token that allows it to boot.
Mark my words: everyone using the UEFI Signed Boot system will have cause to regret it.
Putting your neck in someone else's hands is not an acceptable tradeoff.
Details from a reluctant collaborator:
http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/12368.html
Mark my words: everyone using the UEFI Signed Boot system will have cause to regret it.
Putting your neck in someone else's hands is not an acceptable tradeoff.
Details from a reluctant collaborator:
http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/12368.html
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Date: 2012-06-01 11:48 am (UTC)This seems to be a similar situation. They can stand on principle, and remain pure - and their install base will suffer, as people who can't or won't fiddle with the firmware will drop them. Or they can compromise, swallow the bitter pill, and collaborate while they try to find a third way - the route they've chosen, and one which will allow them to keep their install base. From a business standpoint, and a long-term Linux standpoint, I think it's the better option. Standing out in the woods yelling about a problem won't help if your group is only 2 or 3; standing in the front lobby with 10 people has more impact even if you had to submit to an unreasonable search to get in the door.
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Date: 2012-06-01 03:12 pm (UTC)UEFI can't make any computer safer to use without also having an OS that refuses to run any unsigned code. That's an Orwellian disaster, and is precisely what Apple and Microsoft are aiming for. The end result cements those two as rulers of the world.
No Linux distribution should accept UEFI. Windows users should refuse to purchase UEFI computers that don't offer an open boot option. Mac users will be nailed to the wall.
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Date: 2012-06-01 03:31 pm (UTC)Let me ask: should Linux distros refuse to play ball with UEFI, what do you see as the realistic result? To me, the way to gain traction and market share is not with the techies; much of that market is saturated. They need to demonstrate that they are a mainstream product if they ever hope to be a mainstream product, and any installation instructions that start with "first, go into the BIOS and..." loses immediately. Hardware manufacturers who want to sell Linux machines will deal with this one way or another, either by setting the boot to open or by making sure the code is altered to fit. WWDD? What Would Dell Do?
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Date: 2012-06-01 04:54 pm (UTC)- Corporations making large purchases of PCs
- State and federal IT purchases
- The EFF
- Congresscritters
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Date: 2012-06-01 05:22 pm (UTC)State and Federal IT purchases... that may stand a chance, given the way the laws are written. Indeed, they may end up being *mandated* to make that change. The problem is, again, existing dominance; unless all the software they use can be found in the Linux world, they have the waiver to maintain Windows. Even if not, it requires a federal computer specialist with vision (and a compliant purchasing manager) to make this happen (unless things have changed radically since I last worked for the feds).
The EFF - yes, but how effective will they be? What is the public perception?
Congresscritters? Please. They go where the money is, and it's in Redmond and Cupertino, not Raleigh or in London. The best bet in that respect is in questioning whether the monopolistic tendencies this encourages runs afoul of Sherman, and the ability of Linux distros to adapt to the new ecosphere (whether they choose to or not) makes that more difficult.
And remember: when you leave the field of battle, you can't then complain that the field has been taken over by your opponents.